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FIRE State Of The Union | Todd Tresidder | Risk Management
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Episode Summary:

A breakdown of the current state of the financial independence (FI) community, as discussed by Todd Trusseter. The conversation highlights the traditional views of FI focused on frugality and passive index investing while introducing the concept of 'fat fire' which emphasizes maintaining a more luxurious lifestyle. Todd explains the math behind financial independence, challenging the notion that lower expenses equate to happiness. The discussion further explores alternative asset classes, like real estate and business investments, as viable paths to achieve financial independence. The importance of risk management in investing, alongside a personal journey of Todd's financial choices, illustrates that financial freedom should be tailored to individual values and lifestyles. The episode concludes with thoughts on the evolving nature of financial education and the need for diversified investment strategies.

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Redefining Financial Independence: Embracing a Holistic Approach

Understanding Financial Independence

Financial independence (FI) is often portrayed as a journey to drastic frugality, but it doesn’t have to be. Instead of adopting a stringent saving scheme characterized by "Lean FIRE," consider exploring the more fulfilling path of "Fat FIRE," which allows for a lifestyle infused with quality experiences without the unyielding rules of frugality. The foundation of achieving financial independence lies in understanding the principles of wealth creation that harmonize with your personal values and lifestyle.

The Concept of Fat FIRE

Fat FIRE represents a financial independence journey where the objective is not to minimize spending but to create a lifestyle that thrives on quality and experience. Unlike Lean FIRE, which focuses heavily on cutting expenses, Fat FIRE encourages you to define your financial journey according to your personal comfort, happiness, and values.

  1. Define Your Needs: Start by recognizing what you genuinely value in life. Shift your focus from merely saving money to spending on things that enrich your life. Ask yourself what makes you happiest and prioritize those experiences.

  2. Quality Over Quantity: Choose to invest in experiences rather than things. Whether it’s traveling with family or dining at your favorite restaurant, spending should be guided by the value it adds to your life rather than a strict budget.

  3. Create Freedom: Financial independence should provide you with choices and freedom rather than restrictions. It's about achieving a point where money works for you, enhancing your life without dictating your choices.

Expanding Your Asset Classes

Traditional advice often narrows the focus to stock market investments and passive income. However, diversifying your asset classes is crucial to achieving your financial goals more holistically.

1. The Importance of Multiple Asset Classes

Consider broadening your investment strategy to include:

  • Real Estate: Investing in property can yield significant returns and provide passive income through rentals. It is a tangible asset that also appreciates over time.
  • Entrepreneurship: Building a business can unlock pathways to wealth not typically covered in traditional financial planning. Harness your unique skills and interests to create additional revenue streams.
  • Stock Market and Alternative Investments: While passive index funds might form the backbone of many portfolios, exploring alternative investments can diversify your risk and potentially boost returns.

2. Active Risk Management

With any investment strategy, understanding risk is crucial. Don’t shy away from active risk management, which can help you make informed decisions and safeguard your assets against market volatility.

  • Assess Risk Tolerance: Understand your personal comfort and financial goals to guide your investment decisions.
  • Adapt Strategies: Regularly revolve your investment decisions based on market conditions while aligning them with your financial objectives.

Personalizing Your Financial Strategy

Creating a customized financial plan entails assessing your individual skills, resources, and values, which enhance the likelihood of achieving financial independence.

1. Individual Skill Assessment

Reflect on your skills and talents to find opportunities that may align with your long-term goals. This can mean launching a side hustle or exploring freelance opportunities that tap into your passions.

2. Value-Based Spending

Develop a value-based spending framework. Ask yourself:

  • Does this purchase align with my goals and values?
  • Will it enhance my life and experiences?
  • What trade-offs am I willing to make?

Being conscious of the value spent will enrich your financial journey and align with the experience-driven lifestyle that Fat FIRE promotes.

Action-Oriented Steps Toward Financial Independence

To start your journey toward financial independence, consider the following actionable steps:

  1. Evaluate Your Expenditures: Regularly assess your spending habits to identify areas where you can invest in experiences that matter most to you, rather than those that solely adhere to a budget.

  2. Diversify Assets: Research and select two or more asset classes that resonate with your ambitions. Whether it's real estate or investing in a personal business, diversity can lead to opportunities for wealth accumulation.

  3. Commit to Learning: The financial landscape is dynamic. Allocate time each week for financial education, whether through podcasts, articles, or workshops. Equip yourself with knowledge to make informed decisions.

  4. Take Meaningful Action: Establish a concrete action step each week related to your financial journey—this could be researching a new investment opportunity or networking with other entrepreneurs in your field.

Embracing Your Unique Path to FI

The path to financial independence is not a universal road but a highly individual journey. Respect your unique circumstances and values, exercising freedom in your financial decisions. Recognize that every financial choice comes with its trade-offs; understanding this allows you to design wealth plans that resonate with your life’s goals, ultimately leading to a more fulfilling and rewarding journey toward financial independence.

Conclusion

Pursuing financial independence done your way can lead to a lifestyle characterized by personal fulfillment rather than limitations. Embrace a holistic approach to wealth creation that emphasizes the importance of personalized strategy, diversified assets, and value-based spending. Taking actionable steps today will pave your way to financial freedom, where the ultimate goal is not just wealth but a life rich with experiences that bring you joy and satisfaction.

You've been listening to ChooseFI Podcast, where we help middle-class America build wealth one life hack at a time.

Todd Tresidder from Financial Mentor comes on the show to share his perspective on the traditional way FI is taught ( FIRE State of the Union)  and where it could be improved. We discuss the unique characteristics of all three asset classes and the advantages and disadvantages of each. Create a framework for your wealth plan and understand the importance of risk management.

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Podcast Episode Summary

  • An in-depth conversation with Todd Tresidder from the Financial Mentor on the State of the FIRE Union
  • The math behind financial independence and how traditional FI-thought is about lowering expenses and investing in low-cost passive index funds
  • Todd believes there’s more to the situation than commonly believed
  • Todd does not want to optimize relentlessly based on price
  • What is Todd’s definition of Fat FIRE?
  • There are multiple paths to FI such as pursuing the business and real estate asset classes to get you to FI quicker in Todd’s opinion

Where does Risk Management come into play?

  • Risk management also needs to be discussed in the FI community
  • A nuanced, dynamic, “Level 2” understanding
  • Finding the right plan for different people and different situations
  • The point of FI is happiness
  • What Todd values: Experiences not stuff, and buying conveniences
  • How Todd disconnects when he is on vacation with his family
  • Todd has focused on all three asset classes in his life and background info on his history
  • Todd is always focused on risk vs. reward at different points in time
  • Todd’s on the ground view of the housing bubble as an apartment owner
  • Paper assets do not lead to a “predictable” return
  • As an investor you always want to look for the “obvious thing nobody else is looking at.” Todd’s discussion of inflation
  • Todd doesn’t predict the future, but he manages risk
  • Manage the downside and risk management. Buffett quote on not losing money
  • What situation would it make sense for someone to invest in index funds, real estate, business, etc.? Everyone needs their own plan for wealth building
  • The business asset class – inventing equity out of ‘thin air’
  • The downside characteristics of each of the three asset classes
  • Hot Seat questions
  • Todd exercises and eats local and organic food to stay healthy
  • Todd’s lifestyle play to sell his hedge fund. He was already financially independent before the sale as he didn’t raise his lifestyle expenses after college
  • Todd’s safe withdrawal rate is higher than 4% due to his investment management and risk management skills
  • Todd would have went back and invested in rental real estate if he could advise his younger self
  • Todd wants to stay liquid with his assets

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